Baseball Grip – 10 Finger Golf Grip.   Your link has been automatically embedded. Harry Vardon popularized this grip around the turn of the 20th Century. 10 fingers vs. overlap - posted in The Lesson Tee: Ive had trouble with a smothered hook since coming back from a golf trip in May. If we have established this fact, then the oversized golf grip is an alternate option for the golfers with large hands. I also practiced my new grip while watching tv, every day for weeks, annoying everyone in the house in the process. [/quote] Overlap vs Interlock Gripping Method. Some of the main features of both types of grips are compared below. I guess where I'm heading is that the grip change was good for me because I didn't have a very good grip to begin with - it was waaaay too strong and caused some inconsistencies that I had to fix through timing. [the “baseball” grip (holding what appears to be a putter)] The “baseball grip,” as the 10-finger grip is also known, is frowned upon because it requires more of a commitment to move the arms correctly in a swing. [/quote] The Vardon Overlap grip, sometimes called the Overlapping Grip, is the most common grip among great players. This is feasible, as kids usually adapt swing and setup changes fairly easily as compared to adults. hide. There is no one way or the correct pga way. What grip was widely used pre Vardon? If you search the Internet for “double-overlap grip,” chances are good that you will get a lot of hits for the words “overlap” and “grip”… and virtually no useful information on the double-overlap grip itself. The arguments I've read in favor of the standard overlapping grip ( which mine is not) usually refer to having the hands act as a unit. Vokey SM5 46* Currently I have my left hand extended beyond the butt handle of the club and my right pinky finger overlapping my left hand. Some teachers like to advocate that junior players use the 10-finger grip, with the goal of switching to the overlap or interlock later. I'm not using it because of hand weakness, as my hands and wrists are very strong, the product of work and a lifetime of doing wrist curls with a 50 lb. You even have the odd guy here and there (like Josh Broadway) with a left hand low grip for full swings. What they are is DIFFERENT, and can (potentially) correct different swing flaws. Vokey Cold Forged 52/10 Wedges: Titleist SM5 50*,56*, 60* [quote name='Dinosaur' timestamp='1421689764' post='10776881'] The swing felt so much better switching back to the 10 finger. "They always refer to the baseball grip for golf but never the golfers grips for baseball..Why? 26 comments. There lies a chance of sequences overlapping in the 10 finger golf gripping technique. I am basically a self-taught golfer, very close to single digit handicap though I can be very inconsistent (potential for mid 70s or mid 90s whenever I go out), and I've used a 10 finger grip my whole golf life (about 10 years, i'm 18). I play the baseball grip out of necessity. This is feasible, as kids usually adapt swing and setup changes fairly easily as compared to adults. I just couldn't feel the club...like others said,play what works for you. Well basically, there are three common golf gripping styles familiar amongst avid golfers; the Overlapping Grip, Interlocking Grip, and Baseball Grip. Interlocking Vs 10 Finger Golf Grip. The Vardon grip is a type of finger placement that a golfer can use to hold a golf club in his hands. Great question. Would it have made Ted Williams a better hitter?. If your grip is sound, I don't care which way you hold it. You're a 3 handicap, so clearly there is a lot more right with your grip than there was with mine. Upload or insert images from URL. There are so many ways to play this game and what works for others doesn't always work for you. There are three main grips used by golfers: the Vardon grip, the interlocking grip and the 10-finger (or baseball) grip. It is also known as the baseball grip, because all 10 fingers are on the golf club. Also tried out the 10 finger today at the range. What do you use? Steve Jones used a reverse overlap, and Furyk uses a double overlap. The Interlocking Grip – Which Is Best? Billiards? The grip is, obviously, about the relationship of the hands and consequently, the fingers. If the pinkie is not long and strong enough the golfers risks seeing it slip out of position during the golf swing, rather than staying securely in place. The very nature of this hold heightens your awareness of hand placement and helps you maintain stability in your grip. Wilson Staff V4 5 and 6/Aerotech Fibersteel 110 S 10 Finger Golf Grip Vs. Texsport, Mizuno GT180 10.5*/Graphite Design Tour AD IZ 5 X Around the green I still use the overlap, but am experimenting with the 10 finger. No dice. The second way, would be to have your right pinky and left index finger interlock with one another. Saw this just now on Reddit. I have long fingers as well, the solution to that is to have your grips wrapped (under the grips they use tap) with a couple of extra wraps to build them up so they feel correct.   Pasted as rich text. Driver: TaylorMade M1 9.5* Fujikura Pro60 S A picture of the grip is shown on the right. Also wonder when thumbs started extending down the shaft instead of wrapping around. If it is belting it down with rain and the club slips I use an interlock and a clean handkerchief. The interlocking golf grip style finds the right pinky finger locked between the index and middle fingers of the left hand (for a right-handed golfer). Overall, I'd say you must make some adjustments if switching to 10 finger, but once you figure them out, it's as good as any grip for me.I do believe that I have more feel for the clubhead all the way thru the swing and thru impact. I had used interlocking since I started playing golf and never really thought about how I put my hands on the golf club (I know, stupid). Allergic2Birdies Hah! Paste as plain text instead, × TM SIM Max 10.5* Atmos Blue 65S There are so many ways to play this game and what works for others doesn't always work for you. Try doing either the overlap or the interlock. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. I had been pulling my irons due too strong right hand. An overlap golf grip takes the right pinky finger and places it on top of the gap between the index finger and middle finger on the left hand. I broke my left index finger a month ago and it required surgery, so this may be my only option, for the first few months of the season anyway. The Baseball Grip. Want to learn more about the vertical golf swing and my Peak Performance Golf swing? Proponents point to its use by Jack Nicklaus and Tiger Woods – arguably the two greatest players in history – as evidence of the interlocking grip… The interlock is a variation to the traditional Vardon grip, in which the right pinky -- for a right-handed golfer -- rests over the left index finger behind the shaft. The very nature of this hold heightens your awareness of hand placement and helps you maintain stability in your grip. It does allow more wrist action on shots which require it. MacGregor PRO M 7-PM/Aldila RIP 115 Tour S Every club in the bag was going left of the target line, in some cases rather violently as the loft decreased in the clubs. I disagree with that. It's just a different feel---more into the right hand--naturally. If your hands are medium to big, go with the overlap grip. Eventually a few people said don't worry about it and some said change it. With overlapping, your pinky is chilling out on top of your other hand. This grip places the club in the fingers and is the grip most likely to be taught by golf instructors. This is not bad advice as there are several benefits to the ten-finger golf grip.   You cannot paste images directly. The Overlap Grip: Vokey TVD 60* Outlaw Golf Association While the overlapping grip is the most commonly used style on the PGA Tour, it's interesting to note that many of golf's greatest players favored the interlocking style. Good luck! It's a personal choice and I'd say if you're playing well with it stick to it. This grip is … Great question. I have always used the baseball or 10 finger grip since I started and got extremely used to it and never thought anything of it. You will never progress with a 10 finger grip so yes you have to switch. It's a personal choice and I'd say if you're playing well with it stick to it. You must understand what a grip can and can't do, and how to get the most from it. This article will just be based on the first-two mentioned gripping styles as the baseball grip (also called ten-finger grip) is the least preferred grip that instructors/teachers use. You even have the odd guy here and there (like Josh Broadway) with a left hand low grip for full swings. PING Glide 52*SS 58*WS 60*TS So as long as the two "v's" created by your thumb and index finger are pointed around your right shoulder/collarbone go for it. Titleist 917F 15* w/Tour AD Di However, two are the most used/popular. Vardon Grip | Overlap Grip. I recently took up golf about a year and a half ago and have just switched to Taylormade burner 2.0 irons. There are three basic types of golf grips: the overlapping, interlocking and 10-finger grips. After, just move your finger around until the grip feels comfortable and you should be all set. The purpose of a golf grip is very simple – to help you keep a firm hold on the club during your swing with as little tension as possible. Thumbs wrap for any other two-handed sport. Ten finger grip on the golf club. To Heck with the USGA. Yes the grip does feel good, but that probably has alot to do with the fact I've been using it for a while. Either way, took some lessons last year, played some of my best golf but was still lacking consistency - more importantly, developed a nasty case of the hooks with my driver and woods. This is not bad advice as there are several benefits to the ten-finger golf grip. In my mind it is more importand to have a neutral grip with both hands working together than anything else. When I gripped a ladies club my right hand naturally goes more over the top. Click HERE for more School of Golf content. The third way, would be to have all 10 fingers on the club, much like a baseball grip. There are three basic types of golf grips: the overlapping, interlocking and 10-finger grips. The 10-finger golf grip, also called the baseball grip, can be a good choice for children and for adults with arthritis or other hand ailments. A question about grip for y'all: 10 fingered vs. overlap. Doesnt mean I dont dabble in it everyonce in a while. Some teachers like to advocate that junior players use the 10-finger grip, with the goal of switching to the overlap or interlock later. Discussion about the golf grip can be divided into two categories – how your hands form the grip, and the actual grip on your club. Anyone know anything about this? amazing to me that I was able to shoot some of the scores I did with such a crappy grip but that is why I could shoot 75 one day and shoot 87 the next. I'm glad that I'm back. Tour Edge Exotics CB F2 PRO 15.5* Limited/Speeder 757 EVO 7.1X (Gene Sauers club) But regardless my biggest thing is, can the 10 finger grip be as consistent as the interlocking\overlap. Even with the differing hand positions of Natural Golf and Moe Norman – their concepts of the swing being on a Single Plane was similar. Apologies if this has been posted elsewhere already. Other hands a shortening of the club (the trail side is closer to the club head), there is very little difference with a good 10-finger grip and overlapping grip. 'School of Golf' host Martin Hall has a tip everyone can use to hit the ball farther just by changing your grip. Thumbs wrap for any other two-handed sport. We have put together some information to […] Titleist 915 18*/Fubuki K 80X As far as i stand right now, I believe I'll just stick with the 10 finger grip, and hopefully keep on having some success. Natural Golf’s original clubs were three inches longer than conventional golf clubs – and they taught that hands on the club were split a few inches. You have to live with the results, so no one can tell you what is right for you. Tried 10 finger embarrased to say and it felt the best since all fingers are on the grip and none of them are squished together but the problem is i can't get the hands too close to each other because all 10 fingers are on the grip. [quote name='Dinosaur' timestamp='1421720794' post='10780485'] - G, bob estes used it for awhile but has since gone back to traditional. If you are new to golf, you have very likely been told to hold the golf club with all ten fingers. Several functions may not work. tgoodspe1991 posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, December 26, 2020, chouls19 posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, December 5, 2020, johngalt312 posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 3, 2020, BAlberstadt posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, November 16, 2020, Allergic2Birdies posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, December 17, 2020, By [/quote] I've been working on an overlap grip with just my pinky going over my index finger (which then naturally goes underneath and locks onto the club) on my higher hand (I'm lefty) and after playing with the grip a little bit as well as hitting the range and the course over the past couple months, I've found myself hitting far straighter and with much more control than I was with the baseball grip. I was always curious if I was the last golfer using this grip. The driver had become nothing more than a violent smothered hook which would never stay in play. Always used 10 fingered grip and played off scratch from 95-02, basically play what works and feels right. Cobra Trusty Rusty Tour 64*/DG S-200 A picture of the grip is shown on the right. Otherwise, just apply the same process but with opposite hands. It is not importand HOW, HOW MANY that counts. Also known as the overlap grip the Vardon grip is named after the famous golfer Harry Vardon who helped popularize it early in the 20th century. The interlocking golf grip has its pros and cons over the 10-finger or baseball golf grip. Although the most common grip among professional golfers is the overlapping or "Vardon" grip, there are some notable golfers who have used the interlocking grip. Also wonder when thumbs started extending down the shaft instead of wrapping around. I thought the undersized grip change and trying the 10 finger grip (concentrating on the right hand being stronger) would cure my fade. Titleist 913 Hybrid 21*/Tour Blue 105X (Matt Jones' club) (OR) TM Burner 4-iron/Aldila RIP 115 Tour S che desideri...." If done correctly, the separation of the hands is hardly noticeable and has little effect. Glad I'm not. The 10-finger golf grip, also called the baseball grip, can be a good choice for children and for adults with arthritis or other hand ailments. Odyssey #9 O-Works. To do the overlap grip, first, grab the club as you would for the baseball grip. not of particular importance, but mostly a curiosity. It worked okay for a while but eventually changed to an interlocking then back to overlapping. That leaves me with 8 fingers on the club. The grip is your only contact with the club. I may try to overlap my left index finger over my right pinky (righty) instead of the classic vardon grip with the right pinky over the left index. They promoted a 10-finger grip. One thing I do better with the 10 finger, for some reason, is maintain my left hand grip pressure throughout. 4W: Cobra BioCell+ 16* Project X 6.0 The interlocking golf grip has its pros and cons over the 10-finger or baseball golf grip. With an interlocking grip, your pinky and index finger are tangled up. I played that way for years but once I got serious about golf switched. Overlap has 9 fingers on the handle all on left hand and four on the right. [quote name='HawkeyeDan' timestamp='1421720577' post='10780465'] Having recently changed my grip from interlocking to overlapping, I can tell you about my experience of what it was like to change grips. 'School of Golf' host Martin Hall has a tip everyone can use to hit the ball farther just by changing your grip. I often wonder if either would be better than the 10 finger grip I use. [quote name='HawkeyeDan' timestamp='1421720577' post='10780465'] iBlade replacement? From there, slide the little finger of your right hand into the space between the index and middle finger of your left hand. All written demonstrations of grip techniques I’m giving you here are to be engaged actively by a right-handed player. The only difference between the overlap grip and the ten-finger grip is—you guessed it—an overlapping finger. The reverse overlap gives him that extra feel and control in his right palm." I can use multiple grips at any time and so can you if you give each some time and pay attention to how they affect your body and flight of the ball. I am 17 years old 6'2'' and weigh 185 lbs. not of particular importance, but mostly a curiosity. 1. [the “baseball” grip (holding what appears to be a putter)] The “baseball grip,” as the 10-finger grip is also known, is frowned upon because it requires more of a commitment to move the arms correctly in a swing. The only way is what works best for you. By Interlocking Vs 10 Finger Golf Grip. Bob Rosburg, Moe Norman, and others have used the 10 finger grip. a few years ago i broke a bone in my little finger and everytime i try to do an overlap, its very uncomfortable. You don't see a lot of tour pros using it. All this time Ive been using an interlock grip. If anyone has any pga pros names off the top of there head that have had success with the grip, I'd appreciate some names so I could look them up. Scratch JMO Grind Don White 56*/DG X-100 Tiger Woods and Rory McIlroy use the interlocking grip, as did the legendary Jack Nicklaus throughout his career. I started using the 10 finger grip when I first started playing golf. To place your hands on the handle using the Vardon Overlap, take the little finger on the trailing hand and place it between the index and middle finger on the lead hand (for right-handed golfers, the lead hand is the left). I am right handed. The ten-finger is a very strong grip which can promote a hook. This can slow down acceleration in the swing. I have played with him more than 50 times and he was between 75 and 88 every single time with the most consistent shot pattern and ball striking that I have witnessed. [/quote] The Perfect Golf Swing describes the overlap grip as follows: the characteristic feature of the Vardon overlap grip is the overlap of the right 5th finger over the left fingers, usually resting in the groove between the left second finger and left third finger. I think it takes the same skill and mentality to keep your hands acting as one unit if it's overlapped, interlocked or ten finger. We have put together some information to […] I don't use a glove. Ive been looking over all of the social media post from today and this is what I’ve been able to determine so far. I appreciate all the advice thus far everyone. Fuse/Corbis/Getty Images.   Your previous content has been restored. Switch was fairly easy to stay with. save. To do the overlap grip, first, grab the club as you would for the baseball grip. In one of the youtube videos, Moe said the lead arm is in the control, and the trail Switch from 10 finger to overlap grip - Single Axis Golf Forum The baseball grip, sometimes called the ten finger grip, is preferred by beginners. (The overlap grip is very uncomfortable for me). Started December 31, 2020, By Titleist 718 AP2s Most players that use the ten-finger will have smaller hands. The overlap golf grip is a great solution to that problem of hand separation. Im a bogey golfer. If you are going to get comfortable with your proper golf grip and be able to take it time after time, shot after shot, it is going to require a little bit of practice. Grip - 10-finger, Overlapping, Interlocking? not of particular importance, but mostly a curiosity. Vardon Grip | Overlap Grip. 10 Finger Golf Grip. Started December 17, 2020, [color=#000000][b]I am not brand loyal. My feeling is that if you tend to be the kind of golfer that has or is going to have your hands in conflict during the swing, it doesn't matter what grip you use. A few weeks ago, I tried the interlocking grip for roughly 2 weeks, swing felt decent, but i do have problems with the right hand pinky. The 10 Finger Golf Grip: Best Technique for Beginner - To get a powerful yet controlled swing in golf, the player needs to recognize properly in holding the golf club. I changed because I wanted to completely get away from what I was used to (which was wrong for several reasons, not saying interlocking or overlapping is better or worse), and overlapping is what 90% of the pga pros use so why not do what the majority does. I was using the baseball grip up until last year (junior year of high school). People with weaker hands and forearms may also benefit from the 10-finger grip. Overlap Golf Grip. dumbell. What grip was widely used pre Vardon? The Interlocking Grip – Which Is Best? Really? It worked okay for a while but eventually changed to an interlocking then back to overlapping. Speaking from experience and knowledge you have to try for yourself and compare the difference in what each grip does in terms of feel and ball flight. it will feel weird for awhile to switch but if you sre in highschool then you have plenty of time to beat balls so it will feel fine after a couple of days. The far and away most consistent golfer I know has a home made swing and 10 finger grip. RIZZO66, on 20 June 2008 - 09:24 PM, said: Community Forum Software by IP.BoardLicensed to: 2012 GolfWRX Holdings Inc. My daughter switched to 10 finger about 5 years ago and hits the ball solid with it - every time a instructor tries to talk her out of it she starts having problems controlling the club and when she switches back it is solid again- if it works stay with it. Also wonder when thumbs started extending down the shaft instead of wrapping around. Last night I was reading several articles about the ten finger grip and why it is not as terrible as many people think. After 15 years, I switched from overlap to interlocking about a month ago. The other common type of golf grip is the 10-finger grip. In one of the youtube videos, Moe said the lead arm is in the control, and the trail Switch from 10 finger to overlap grip - Single Axis Golf Forum Display as a link instead, × I'm thinking of switching from the 10 finger to the overlap grip. Irons: Mizuno MP-54 5i-PW, Shafts: XP105 R300 But golf is all about being comfortable with your game and its starts when the club isnt moving. [quote name='Dinosaur' timestamp='1421689764' post='10776881'] I'm 57 and started playing 49 years ago. I also will add that I am 34 and had never gripped the club properly until I met Slicefixer. And the club isnt moving when you are getting your grip. This grip places the club in the fingers and is the grip most likely to be taught by golf … I used it for a few months but never became accustomed to it. Garrett77, February 23, 2010 in Instruction & Academy. If anything, I think a 10 finger grip would more likely affect how good you can get and not necessarily how consistent you can be. Steve Jones used a reverse overlap, and Furyk uses a double overlap. Never let anybody bully you into doing something that feels wrong.....there's no 'right' or 'wrong' grip. FOOOOOORE at Fenway Park.? Bob Rosburg, Moe Norman, and others have used the 10 finger grip. 10 Finger Golf Grip Vs. The real test is, do you feel comfortable and do you like it? Overlap Golf Grip. 10 finger grip here. Tried overlap, tried interlock... Nope... No joy. I have small hands with fat fingers so it never felt comfortable to interlock and overlap sometimes my index finger would slip off plus I was playing baseball at the time and changing grips just felt weird. The 10 finger golf grip takes side of the right hand while the other two gripping techniques – (interlocking and overlapping grips), help find a balance between both hands. MagnoliaGolfer You can post now and register later. After some research and more lessons, my golf pro and I changed my grip to a much weaker one, and I decided to change to an overlapping grip. I have tried overlap, reverse overlap, interlock, and now use the 10 finger because of a finger injury and advice from my Orthopedic Surgeon. Overlapping: Numerous overlapping grips are available. "Non rinunciare mai quello Now the two strongest digits at going to be the thumb and index finger of each hand. The overlap grip can sometimes be referred to as the Vardon grip as well. Okay everyone, we all know this was gonna happen eventually. And there are some advantages to each depending on the type of golfer you are. 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