May also be used on Metal Parts. Just a heads up on some of these labeled cans that may still be in circulation. You can spray lacquer over the paint and decals if you do it right. This batch has since been recalled from major retaillers but I have seen a few still on the market in smaller outlets. 1 offer from CDN$41.30. By ... Tamiya TAM87131 Black Planel Line Accent 4.8 out of 5 stars 1,504. The eyes were masked off and got a glossy coat using Tamiya X-22 "Clear Gloss" applied with a brush. I've used Testors dulcote for ever straight from the spray can without much problem.I had 1 hard lesson at first,that it had to be shaken very well first,my finished model was a write off as it turned into totally white dust.I am going to try something Gino suggested on another post.Modelmaster lusterless flat,#1960.I had no idea it existed and I have yet to find it. Same thing with their gloss paints. C $3.27. Posted: Friday, November 30, 2012 - 10:12 AM UTC, Posted: Friday, November 30, 2012 - 10:13 AM UTC. I've never used this product before, but my understanding is that it is specifically intended for use as a final coat (and is a different product than Tamiya Flat Base X21.) level 1 … No outright frosting, like you get if you spray Tamiya Flat Base straight, but varying degrees of a dusty layer that looks more like weathering than a clear coat. Posted: Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 02:50 AM UTC, Thanks for all the responses thus far. My short term memory is getting really bad....and so is my short term memory. CDN$15.99. the finish is much more noticeable than the krylon in my opinion. I absolutely love David Gilmour's guitar work. It is called Tamiya Flat Base, right? Are you talking about the spray cans on the stuff in the bottles? Here's my honest advice as I've heard of this issue before. I don't really reccomend this product. Tamiya 85080 TS-80 Matte Flat Clear Coat Spray Lacquer Paint Aerosol 100ml. The more you add, the flatter it gets. Of course, thats all a matter of personal taste! 5.0 out of 5 stars. Find great deals on eBay for tamiya clear and tamiya clear spray. +C $25.05 shipping. TAMIYA PS-55 Flat Clear Polycarbonate Spray 100Ml - 75-T86055. I can't remember the number, but the Tamiya web site would list it. Altough it must be stirred & thinned well to get the best result. I did have some Floquil Reefer White yellow after I hit it with Testor Dullcote (in the rattle can) but that was probably more because I didn't let the paint dry long enough. Tamiya's Clear Flat in a jar is also very good. × It's readily available here in Australia. Does anyone knows the biggest difference between these two? Stupid stinks. Looking at your pictures Bill I'm getting a bit of this too, only nowhere near as bad. the krylon is cheaper, but a larger can. It's also a great way of keeping a small amount of any special colors you have mixed in case you need some at the end of the build. Yes, Thomas, if you mist your model with Future you can save your model. And here's Frankenstein's penguin in all its glory, painted solely using Tamiya brush paints + pastel chalk for weathering and a flat clearcoat sprayed on top. To protect the paint and decals from the lacquer. in which i explore the many legends of this apparently magical way of making yo model shine like a diamond in a goat's ass. <_<. × Too much Flat Base causes the frosty surfaces. X-21 is a flating agent—don't use it straight. See "The Complete Future" thread in the Painting and Airbrushing Forum. We are shipping online orders as usual during the COVID-19 event. However, they did and although I have never heard an official line from Humbrol, I assume that the withdrawal of this product by the company itself flags up the dangers of using any of these cans still in circulation. Pasted as rich text. Honestly, most of the time, I use Tamiya Clear Flat Lacquer in a spray can. On the bench: Dragon flakvierling with armoured cab + AM Works PE, Posted: Sunday, December 02, 2012 - 01:49 PM UTC. the rattle cans is the same stuff as the bottle, juset that you need to thin the stuff in the bottle before you spray it. As Si said Tamiya Clear is added to matt paint to give a gloss finish and Flat Base is added to gloss paint to give a matt finish. But what about yellowing, I've read on this forum where Testors MM dullcote and glosscote turn yellow over time. C $20.68. I have been using Liqutex matt varnish thinned slightly with water and some of their Slow-Dri Fluid Retarder for almost a year now with no problems.It sprays well and is cheap to use.Jeff T. The building lamp is lit.Build'em if you got'em. or Best Offer. but litter fumes don't kill brain cells, just make you.... :D I hate cats and their smell, plus the damn things shed and hairs get in your models.... anyways, I had to claim my minute of anger. Testors TENAMEL-1247 Aerosol Enamel Paint, 3 oz, Gloss Black 4.5 out of 5 stars 165. Always turns out, never failed me yet and been using it for years and years. Posted: Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 07:02 PM UTC, Posted: Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 10:59 PM UTC, Posted: Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 11:59 PM UTC. Tamiya makes a flat clear. 10ml Mini. That stinks too. It dries instantly and is safe over enamel or acrylic finishes. I’m trying to be more careful since the gloss coat I used(Mr.Hobby Color Acrylic Clear Gloss) ruined the camo on my current model. After finsihing decaling, I'm preparing to airbrush my model with a matte finish using Tamiya XF-86 Flat Clear. I have been using 2 parts X-21 Flat Base to 3 parts Future as a flat coat for 5 years and it always gives me a perfect dead flat finish with no problems. The extender does exactly what it says...extends the drying time to ensure wet paint is hitting the surface. Buy It Now. Then flat coat with another type of coat. Part Number 85080. Ideal for preparing ABS and Styrene plastic for paint. You can thin it out about 50/50. 19d 23h left (22/6, 22:36) From United States. I just ordered a bottle of Tamiya XF86, and will post my findings as soon as I shoot it. I find anything other than a flat clear coat … Some of these I really haven’t heard too much about being used for BJDs. Stickers were subsequently applied on said cans stating ` don`t use with brushing paint for 7 days`. Therefore its a battle between me and stupid the cat. Don't thin it at all, just drop it in the airbrush and go. Upload or insert images from URL. You should be okay if you do it lightly. If you don't have an airbrush, get some Mr Topcoat or another acrylic clear coat for best results. Each can contains 100ml of paint, which is the appropriate amount for finishing one complete model. Posted: Friday, November 30, 2012 - 01:39 AM UTC. Genius! Tamiya USA Featured Items Paint & Finishing Products Painting is one of the most important steps in the model-making process, and quality coloring is made easy using Tamiya paint and finishing materials! From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Eric Hansmann Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 9:43 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Tamiya Flat Clear TS-80 spray can I’ve had sputtering rattle cans of Dullcoat ruin freight car finishes. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. It is a flattening additive to add to their gloss clear coat. C $12.05; Buy It Now +C $29.74 shipping I've literally spent my entire day trying to figure out a solution to the white, dusty flat coat quandary. The more you add, the flatter it gets. 100ml of paint. You cannot paste images directly. You could try (test first) spraying a clear gloss coat in order to fill in some of the refractive parts of the flat coat. Posted: Friday, November 30, 2012 - 10:45 AM UTC. Shop with confidence. March 21, 2006 in Tools 'n' Tips. Yeah, I was a Humbrol man untill they changed formula and only, initially, advertised it as `new formula`, with no mention of the potential harm it could do if you sprayed it on their own enamel paint. Too little Flat Base have no effect on the paint. My best success (if you want to call it that) seems to have been with my thinned mixture of Vallejo Model Color Matte Varnish with a couple drops of Liquitex Flo-Aid added. Or for brushing try … I don't think accuflex is available any more but you can find similar products in good art or hobby stores under 'extender' or 'retarder'. So you are telling me that is designed to work as a mixing agent with other paints...... well on that case I think I am going to stick with testors.... just open all the windows and door before I shoot, woo hoo, another lacquer purist! I'm interested in what you find that works. 1-16 of 49 results for "tamiya clear coat" Skip to main search results Eligible for Free Shipping. From United States +C … Tamiya makes a clear flat paint that you can use instead. Tamiya paint will often do this regardless of colours, it's not great to brush as the thinner will re-activate prior coats even when dry. Well, that was a waste on an entire day. I also have a few rattle cans of MM laquer. The main problem is that no matter what formulas, brands, thinning ratios or ritual dances to the modeling gods I use, I always end up with a finish that makes the model look dusty. Get ready for some science experiments… Testors Clear Coat 3.4oz (100ml) can of Tamiya Color Spray Lacquer for Plastic Models (TS-80 Gloss Clear) For Adult Modelers Only. <_<. Humbrol matt or satin varnish for me! For best results allow up to one week. I have never had any issue with it at all and it dries dead flat. Acrylic paints dry extremely quickly which can cause the frosting effect. Perhaps you should ask a different question. My rule of thumb is: You can paint enamels and acrylics over lacquer, but not lacquers over enamels and acrylics. some say to use it. Greetings all. I used one on a `copter and it was fine, next day I used it on a jet and...disaster! Bill,sorry you are having so much trouble.I know it can be frustrating not being ablle to fix a problem.Let me ask you a few questions. Ive tried MM acryl flat but for me I feel that it is a bit too flat of a coat. The same can be done with Future. Stupid poos in the room. i much prefer mr clear, but its more expensive for a lesser quantity. A slight sheen isn't too bad, but would prefer not to have any...especially on figures. Posted: Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 09:57 PM UTC, Posted: Sunday, December 02, 2012 - 02:09 AM UTC, Posted: Sunday, December 02, 2012 - 02:21 AM UTC, Posted: Sunday, December 02, 2012 - 09:56 AM UTC, Posted: Sunday, December 02, 2012 - 11:25 AM UTC. It can be mixed in varying amounts with gloss acrylic (only) paints to produce any desired level of reflectance, including Tamiya clear gloss coat. the effect seems a little less noticeable, and it … I ordered some tamiya base and i have a bottle of future to thin it out. Customs services and international tracking provided. For a small area such as that which you describe, you may wish to see if you can find a bottle of Gunze clear flat acrylic (H-20) which will be far less aggressive. Otherwise, you can use Tamiya X-22 Clear Gloss mixed with X-21 Flat base to make a suitable acrylic flat coat. For my first ever post on Armorama, I'm looking for some troubleshooting assistance. I have Iso alcohol, or water, and I can get the very small bottles of Tamiya thinner. most people who speak for and against lacquer are speaking on personal preference or paint compatibility with the other paints they use. yes, it is just fine. It is called Tamiya Flat Base, right? Several applications should make the Flat Base clear again so you can apply a proper flat clear. Our retail location is PICKUP ONLY. Painting polycarbonate bodies is done from the inside of the body shell as opposed to the outside of a traditional plastic model. I can't speak for the other brands, but I have used the Vallejo Matt Varnish with no problems. (all these acryllic users were making me feel like the last smoker in the bar), ? About Tamiya Flat Base, yes like everybody said it's just an additive elements to other gloss paints. Sorry for the noob question,but I am wondering if I can spray Tamiya Lacquer(TS-13 and TS-80)from a rattle can as a gloss and flat coat over my models which are painted in Tamiya Acrylics. Clear editor. I don't like Dullcoat either and agree that Polly Scale is the best one out there. The key is to spray light, mist coats and not soak the surface. But overall Testor Dull Coat is very nice. Testors also have one in their product line. You are viewing the archived version of the site. I had a small plastic tub (with a lid) of a desert yellow which kept liquid for 2 weeks after I added two drops of extender to the mix. Now, this is different stuff than MM flat clear. Since you like using Tamiya acrylics, Tamiya launched XF-86 Flat Clear in their acrylic mini range - 10ml bottles. it works with the rattle cans too, its just easier to get a light coat with an airbrush. Canada Post is not updating tracking information on a regular basis. 57. Recently I went to my local hobby store and picked out some clear matte sealants. I did have one jar that tended to leave small white specks on the finish, but that may have been a bad batch as I haven't had that problem with subsequent jars. As far as Tamiya, I dont think they make a flat clear coat. I haven't used Model Master dull or gloss to know if they yellow over time though. This went Pete Tong and they replaced the stickers with ones saying `don`t use with enamel or acrylic paint`. It is a flattening additive to add to their gloss clear coat. Make sure to test clear coating over decals before applying to a finished project. I have cats and I clean the litter box (thanks the wife for that! ) The only conclusion I've come up with is that I want my Polly-S flat coat back. If you have any doubt practice on some scrap before using it on your build. Brand New. If either Clear or Flat Base … My goal is to get as dead flat finish as possible. I hope that Humbrol have sorted out their problems as I once found their products ultra-reliable untill my desert jets came out looking like they`d been covered in (1)snow or (2) paintstripper. More info and pictures: I've been having a real problem airbrushing various brands of acrylic clear flat coats. I wanted to test them out on resin and see how they looked and felt. Never clogged, and always comes out flat. In my experience airbrushing it, it dries to the touch within a few minutes, and at about 30 minutes to an hour you can easily apply decals. The White is actually trapped water vapor. Seems that it's a condition that is the end result of the Tamiya Flat and Future when their is to much humidity in the air. But if you want to create some effect for tyres, this flat base can work. Your previous content has been restored. Lacquer just tends to be "hotter" than other types so you have to be careful using it over other paints. New (11) from $12.75 & … If only varnishing was so simple...Ahhhh. Testors lacquer flat works like a charm, but the darn thing stinks my place for about a week, I just got some tamiya flat, nice acrylic "brain cell friendly" stuff, but.... would I get the same results as testors? I use the Testors Model Master Acryl Clear Flat through my airbrush all the time, I do not thin it, I use it straight from bottle through my Paasche VL at about 18-20psi. Testors lacquer flat works like a charm, but the darn thing stinks my place for about a week, I just got some tamiya flat, nice acrylic "brain cell friendly" stuff, Rick, You could look at it the way I do. As far as Tamiya, I dont think they make a flat clear coat. Stupid eats on the other side of the room. The one thing you havent mentioned is an 'extender'. I share my building room with stupid the cat. I personally love testors dullcote, and i dont mind the smell, but if you want something friendlier, tamiya will work, just takes some pratice to get the right mix of flat base and clear. I think the testors dullcote has just a bit more sheen than acryl flat, which i like. Again, thin it out and spray it on lightly and it dries dead flat. Beware that it requires precision mixing ratio to get the desired flat level. If it's some kind of spray can, you might want to wait longer though, as spray cans mist a lot more paint onto the model and usually take longer to fully cure. 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